One of Pakistan’s senior-most security officials and experts on terrorism, Ehsan Ghani Khan, sits down with Imtiaz Gul to revisit the Pakistani state’s grave mistakes in dealing with terror over the past almost three decades. “Many senior officials will tell me we don’t know what is the policy and a strategy to deal with the rising monster of extremism and terrorism,” recalls Ghani, who remained the Inspector General of Police of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province in 2013, National Coordinator, National Counterterrorism Authority (2015-2018), and Director General Intelligence Bureau (2018). Watch his revealing conversation that answers many questions related to the Pakistani deep state’s confusion over objectives for countering terrorism.